Screenwriter for 鈥淏lacKkKlansman鈥 Brings Oscar Winning Film to 吃瓜大本营
Film based on a true story with CO roots
鈥淲inning an Oscar is crazy and surreal,鈥 says screenwriter Kevin Willmott. 鈥淣othing prepares you for that.鈥
The victory is still fresh for Willmott, who in February won his first Oscar for his work on 鈥淏lacKkKlansman,鈥 the Spike Lee film nominated for a total of six Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay. It was the second collaboration between Lee and Wilmott, who first worked together on 2015鈥檚 鈥淐hi-Raq.鈥 The pair also co-wrote Lee鈥檚 latest project, 鈥淒a 5 Bloods,鈥 a story about black soldiers in Vietnam that recently started filming.
鈥淏lacKkKlansman鈥 is based on a true story with Colorado roots. It follows Ron Stallworth, a black police officer who infiltrated the Ku Klux Klan as a member of the Colorado Springs Police Department in the 1970s. The movie ends with footage of the 2017 riots in Charlottesville, Virginia, suggesting that some of the factors that drove Klan activities in the 鈥70s are still present today.
Willmott 鈥 also an associate professor of film studies at the University of Kansas 鈥 brought the film to campus in April for a screening and Q&A session with 吃瓜大本营 students. The 吃瓜大本营 newsroom caught up with him before the screening to talk about his background and his work on the film.
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Q: 鈥淏lacKkKlansman鈥 was your second film with Spike Lee, and now you are working on a third together. How did that relationship begin?
A: I made a film called 鈥淐SA: Confederate States of America,鈥 and he heard about the film and loved it. It鈥檚 presented by Spike Lee. It took us a while to work together, but when we finally made 鈥淐hi-Raq鈥 then I think we liked working together.
Q: How does your collaboration process work?
A: There were four writers on 鈥淏lackkKlansman.鈥 There were two guys before us, and they were the guys that found the book and they wrote the first couple drafts of the script. When Jordan Peele approached Spike to direct the film, he said it needed a rewrite, so Spike brought me on. We typically go to his studio in Brooklyn and map out what we鈥檙e going to do, and then I鈥檒l go back to Kansas and I usually do the first draft and I send it to him, then he makes changes and sends it back to me, and we go back and forth.
Q: As a filmmaker, was Spike a hero of yours or someone you looked up to?
A: We were in school at the same time at NYU. He had just graduated when I got there, and he had a big success with 鈥淪he鈥檚 Gotta Have It鈥 when I was there, and so he was an inspiration to everybody.
Q: You teach at the University of Kansas, and you go to other universities to talk about 鈥淏lacKkKlansman.鈥 What do you find students are most interested in talking about when it comes to the film?
A: One thing I鈥檝e noticed is that young people have the same experiences wherever I go. I think they鈥檙e hungry for a response to what鈥檚 happening. People are frustrated right now, with outrageous racist policies and behaviors and a leader that says all these horrible things. There鈥檚 been no real response; there鈥檚 been no real way to stop him. One of the things that I think really connects with the film is that hate is on the rise right now. I think it was always there, but it was kind of held in check. It was in the shadows, and civility 鈥 common, human American civility 鈥 kind of held it in check. And [then] we opened that door and said, 鈥淐ome on out, y鈥檃ll.鈥 People are saying things, doing things, that I hadn鈥檛 heard or seen since I was a kid in the 鈥70s.
Q: When times are hard, politically or socially, do artists have a responsibility to step up and respond?
A: I think so. That鈥檚 one of the good things about art, and about film, in particular 鈥 that we have a way to respond. It鈥檚 tricky right now, because it used to be, in the good old days of the 鈥60s and 鈥70s, all those great satires that were made, especially in the 鈥70s, the problem was so well-defined. It was like, 鈥淭he problem is that, right there. It鈥檚 segregation. It鈥檚 nuclear weapons.鈥 It was clear. And it鈥檚 clear now, but it鈥檚 kind of gotten all jumbled up. The reality of American life now is so bizarre that it鈥檚 hard to satirize. You see people post stuff, like, 鈥淩eally, he said that. This is not The Onion. This is not a joke.鈥 And that鈥檚 made it challenging. It鈥檚 made it a little more complicated, how you respond.
Q: In your view of 鈥淏lacKkKlansman,鈥 how do you see it as a response to what鈥檚 going on?
A: The thing that was timely about our film was that, even though it鈥檚 a movie about the 鈥70s and about hate groups in the 鈥70s, hate groups are on the rise now. Ending the movie with the Charlottesville footage 鈥 we had just made a movie about David Duke in the 鈥70s, and there he was in Charlottesville. He鈥檚 still going strong, and people are still following him and buying the lie. And not just David Duke, but that huge line of young men that were shouting, 鈥淛ews will not replace us.鈥 It was a strong reminder that those guys have always been here, but [now] they felt emboldened, and they felt like they could show their faces. And a lot of those guys got fired afterwards. There were guys that worked at big corporate stores and had corporate jobs, and they thought they could publicly say this stuff, and there would be no response. Fortunately, there was some response, and some of those guys lost their jobs. It鈥檚 a bizarre time right now.
Q: When you were writing the screenplay, did you feel like, 鈥淥K, we can鈥檛 make these guys too comical, because then it won鈥檛 reflect how dangerous they are?鈥 Was there a line you were trying to walk?
A: Stallworth, when he was dealing with these guys, they had planned to blow up a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs. That was their real plan. The thing that we try to do in the film, and the way that we approached the satirical elements of the film, is that we don鈥檛 tell jokes. We don鈥檛 try to make it palatable. We show you hate in its full effect. And in showing how insane hate is, that鈥檚 where you find the humor. It鈥檚 absurd. But it鈥檚 a lot less absurd if you try to make it palatable. If you try to make it not disturbing. If you try to normalize it and not offend the audience. The reality is, you have to be offended. And you should be offended. You should be uncomfortable. And that鈥檚 where you end up laughing at them, because it鈥檚 so insane. Anybody who鈥檚 a rational person has to laugh.
Q: Was there anything that you wanted to put in that you didn鈥檛 because you thought it was too extreme or too over the top?
A: No. I think we put everything in. The crazy thing about the film is that the most extreme, crazy stuff is all true. We didn鈥檛 have to make stuff up. We had to make a few things up just to make it a film, but the crazy absurd stuff 鈥 the two Ron Stallworths and David Duke saying 鈥渁re-a you sure?鈥 鈥 that鈥檚 all true. And Ron putting his arms around the Klan guys and having the picture taken, all that鈥檚 true. You just can鈥檛 make that stuff up.

